# 16.5. Breaking Ties: Second SortingÂ¶

What happens when two items are â€śtiedâ€ť in the sort order? For example, suppose we sort a list of words by their lengths. Which five letter word will appear first?

The answer is that the python interpreter will sort the tied items in the same order they were in before the sorting.

What if we wanted to sort them by some other property, say alphabetically, when the words were the same length? Python allows us to specify multiple conditions when we perform a sort by returning a tuple from a key function.

First, letâ€™s see how python sorts tuples. Weâ€™ve already seen that thereâ€™s a built-in sort order, if we donâ€™t specify any key function. For numbers, itâ€™s lowest to highest. For strings, itâ€™s alphabetic order. For a sequence of tuples, the default sort order is based on the default sort order for the first elements of the tuples, with ties being broken by the second elements, and then third elements if necessary, etc. For example,

In the code below, we are going to sort a list of fruit words first by their length, smallest to largest, and then alphabetically to break ties among words of the same length. To do that, we have the key function return a tuple whose first element is the length of the fruitâ€™s name, and second element is the fruit name itself.

Here, each word is evaluated first on itâ€™s length, then by its alphabetical order. Note that we could continue to specify other conditions by including more elements in the tuple.

What would happen though if we wanted to sort it by largest to smallest, and then by alphabetical order?

Do you see a problem here? Not only does it sort the words from largest to smallest, but also in reverse alphabetical order! Can you think of any ways you can solve this issue?

One solution is to add a negative sign in front of len(fruit_name), which will convert all positive numbers to negative, and all negative numbers to positive. As a result, the longest elements would be first and the shortest elements would be last.

We can use this for any numerical value that we want to sort, however this will not work for strings.